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We Had No Fear of Death

Worldwiders did not believe in death. We believed death happened, we just didn’t believe it happened to us. Even when it did happen to us. Those called to God’s one true church, after all, got a nice long sleep until the resurrection.

Then our bones would rise from the earth, and knit together. Our organs and flesh would pull back on over these bones, like a well-worn suit of clothes. Then the Old Testament god would breathe the holy spirit into these empty shells, and we would take our rightful places, as members of the god family, to rule over all of humanity forever.

Before then, though? Pfff. We were only sleeping. We had no fear of death.

Not the first one anyhow. The final death, the fiery swim, for those who rejected “God’s true way of life”, that was the death we really feared. Death by accident? Death by lack of medical care? Death by your own hand? No problem! You’ll only be sleeping!

(Well, suicide at one point in church doctrine earned you a long trip off a short pier, but was never really discussed.)

We had no fear of death.

Neither do Weinland’s followers.

Ronald Weinland believes he is the spokesman for the Two Witnesses from the biblical Book of Revelation. Weinland has been stating publicly that he is one of the Two Witnesses. He has “prophesied” that the end of April 2008 will be the beginning of the Great Tribulation.

No one knows what will happen, on April 18, when Weinland’s predictions prove false.


Weinland’s itinerary. Stay posted to this site, to find out where the CoG-PKG will hole up, when “the end times” begin. Here’s the relevant quote from this page that should hopefully raise the hairs on the back of your neck.

“We are going to continue the program of visiting areas to help new people in their beginning stages of growth. We will do this over the next few months until the time when it is no longer possible.”

Quote pulled from here:

The statements made about Weinland may just be right. We had 3 deaths recently here where I live; they were all followers of Weinland. They were all long time members and were very well known.

The first death there were many people there, people from many splinters, all got together to mourn the death of a loved one. Weinland officiated the service. There was even a gathering afterwards for many friends and family. Weinland attended that also.

The next death, there was no funeral. It was the wishes of the deceased that there be no funeral.

The next death was the same. No funeral, it was also the wishes of the deceased.  

Total immersion and total isolation. 

Also known as milieu control.

This is one of Lifton’s 8 Criteria for Thought Reform (brainwashing). This is the purposeful limitation of all forms of communication with the outside world — the control of human communication through control of the environment.

Cult members are usually surrounded by other cult members, and isolated from non-members. Often, members cannot easily communicate with non-members, even if they wish to.

And the cult doesn’t just control communication between people; it also controls people’s communication with themselves, in their own minds, especially through control of the language.


Extreme cults create fortified boundaries and are hard on those who are thinking or are attempting to desert.  Isolationism creates fear among cult members to obey their leaders giving them even more control.

One of the defining marks of a cult:

Is to control the surroundings of the members. This makes it easier to control their minds. They are constantly warned of the dangers of being away from the other sect members at all possible times. (Note: This is different from keeping good company) They absolutely cannot be friends with or have contact with a person outside of the sect unless they are recruiting that person into the sect and are endlessly told of the dangers of doing such a thing.

http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/exwcg/archives/75 Robert McNally’s views on Weinland.

http://ironwolf.dangerousgames.com/blog/archives/510 The current comments thread from the above. Love the countdown clock Robert!!

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Two-Witnesses-of-Revelation—Theyre-Everywhere,-Theyre-Everywhere&id=348380  Dennis Diehl has met 23 of the Two Witnesses of Revelation. WEINLAND IS NOT ONE OF THEM.

http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2006/11/ronnie-warns-world.html Ambassador Watch, Pt. 1.

http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2007/12/end-is-nigher-than-you-think.html Ambassador Watch, Pt. 2.

http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2007/12/weinlands-year-of-doom-pt-2.html Ambassador Watch Pt. 3

http://shadowsofwcg.blogspot.com/2007/06/splinter-spotlight-church-of-god.html Shadows of WCG Spotlight

http://www.cogwriter.com/cgpfk.htm <- Armstrong apologist’s site. Bob Thiel (from LCG) writing about the splinter.

http://www.the-end.com/author_interviews.asp – Interviews with Weinland. (PKG site)

http://www.cog-pkg.org/publications/booklet/time_has_run_out.pdf – Booklet from CoG-PKG titled TIME HAS RUN OUT!

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January 25, 2008 at 2:57 pm

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  1. There is sure a lot of hate flying around from people who are supposed to follow Jesus


    February 26, 2008 at 6:31 pm

  2. Mr Weinland believes from his heart that he is one of the 2 last prophets but as you can clearly see the first prediction is almost wrong, America’s economy will collapse in February 2008. This prediction has 3 days left although he came mighty close earlier in the month.


    February 26, 2008 at 6:37 pm

  3. Mr Herbert W. Armstrong got it wrong in the 70’s


    February 26, 2008 at 6:45 pm

  4. Yup, to all of the above. I found your blog through WordPress, and had the impression that you were seeking membership in the CoG-PKG? My apologies if that wasn’t the case. The 1975 That Never Was is proof enough for those willing to open their minds, that we’ve been down this road before, in Church-of-God-land, a place where people live for the future because they don’t want to focus on the terrible injustices being forced upon them in the present.

    What specifically troubles me about Weinland is what, if anything, will happen once his poured-in-concrete-and-set prophecies fail to come to pass this year. There is a chance Weinland will simply step aside and acknowledge he’s wrong….but his certainty now seems too great for him to simply go quietly once it all pans out.

    Thanks for your comment. Please continue to keep looking for answers, whether you decide to join the CoG-PKG or not. (I for one hope you do not.)


    February 26, 2008 at 8:08 pm

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