Archive for February 2008
The “first trumpet”, according to Weinland, will “sound” on April 17th. What exactly does that mean, and why should outside observers be worried for members of the CoG-PKG?
Times, thunders, seals, and all of it proof-texted from the books of Daniel and Revelation: For the Churches of God, bad things always came in sevens.
Who in the world was Ronald Weinland before he appointed himself one of the two witnesses?
Those who cannot remember their history are doomed to repeat it. –Plaque inside the Jonestown pavilion. Updated July 6.
Selected quotes from a discussion thread on the Shadows of WCG discussion board, regarding the Armstrong tract “1975 in Prophecy”.
Here is the original article as it was published in The Plain Truth. All illustrations, photos and text are intact. Ekklesia also has the booklet, as well as other HWA literature that you will definitely not find on the CoG-PKG’s HWA Compendium site. A cursory examination of the materials is self-explanatory as to why.
“My father joined in ’76. Neither one of us ever heard of “1975 in Prophecy” while we were in. I never heard of “1975 in Prophecy” until a year and a half ago. The thought-reform of the membership, as little as a year after the alleged “year in prophecy” came and went without incident, was absolutely complete.”
“I was born in 72 and never heard of 1975 in Prophecy till AFTER college. On the Painful Truth web site! And I had been raised hearing “the church never set dates” and wondered why that was such a fun thing for the ministers to say. I was always thinking “Big deal, so what? OK, we know we never set dates. Why is anyone even talking about it? My husband (same age as I am, within months) also never heard of it. “
“I never heard about it until I joined this forum in August ’07. I was born in 1970 and left in 1989!”
“I was born in 76 and never heard of the 1975 thing either. My mother’s whole family had been in WCG since the 50’s, my dad joined in like 71 – but never, never did I ever hear anything about dates.”
Remember, no one in the church after 1976 knew this booklet had ever existed. As little as one year after this absolutely pivotal “year in prophecy” never came to pass, the thought-reform of the membership of the Worldwide Church of God was absolutely complete, and the church continued on under the leadership of Armstrong full speed ahead until his death in 1986.Will members of the Church of God Preparing for the Kingdom of God follow suit after April 17? External CoG observers certainly hope so, with the caveat that Weinland disbands his church, or “resigns” his position as one of the two witnesses, without bringing harm to either himself or his followers.Reprinted here in full, is the 1956 text of Herbert W. Armstrong’s “1975 in Prophecy”.Astute observers will note the Russian/Chinese army of 200 million soldiers mentioned in the below tract. This is almost verbatim what Weinland “predicted” at the end of his March 15 sermon.
Ah, yes, good old British-Israelism. How well I remember it. How fervently I wish I could forget. Updated Mar. 7
TIMELINE ONE: “45 Days to the Seventh Seal” (Passover Predictions and What Death Means to the 144,000)
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Another prime example why you need to get friends and family members out of this potentially dangerous cult before Passover this year : “45 Days to the Seventh Seal” Weinland’s Feb. 9th, 2008 sermon to the CoG-PKG faithful.
[Update: April 17, 2008, came and went fortunately without incident to any members of the CoG-PKG, other than financially, physically, and spiritually, of course. This is further proof that Ronald and Laura Weinland are simply trying to recoup a retirement package for themselves, after Weinland was either dismissed or fired from both the Worldwide Church of God in 1994, and then either resigned or was fired, from the United Church of God in 1996.]
I cannot provide expert advice, but I can speak as someone who once believed absolutely in the doctrines and teachings of the Worldwide Church of God. As with everything on this blog, please speak to someone who is qualified to advise you. I offer these suggestions on how you can maintain contact with CoG-PKG members while still being “unconverted” in their eyes.
The most important thing to remember is do not talk about the church.