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talkSport Interview with James Whale

Thanks to Ekimks for linking the latest interview. This one has been posted on Weinland’s site, unlike the McConnell interview. The following time-stamps and comments are all from Ekimks.

In the interview on talkSPORT with James Whales available here:

at 20:03 into the file he says that the pope will be given special powers on April 17 while in the US.

Elsewhere in the interview he says that some significant (as yet unknown) event will happen on April 17. Repeated that nukular (?nuclear) weapons go off in port cities of the US 45-90 days later. Time to go dig a bomb shelter.

More highlights / lowlights from talkSport interview with James Whales:
1:40 Second witness to be announced on the 17th. I thought 2nd witless to be announced on the 19th
5:20 After April 17, 45-90 days to 2nd trumpet, then nuclear weapon detonated in US, in port cities
13:15 April 17 will see something in news, more than “a minor irritation”
13:50 People will mock RW. finally a prophecy I can believe.
15:25 Starting April 17, pope will not be happy with RW.
18:55 If not clear that RW’s prophecies being fulfilled by mid-June, RW will admit to being false prophet. Won’t be holding my breath waiting for this to happen
20:03 The pope will be given special powers on April 17 while in the US I haven’t heard this one before.

My comments:

At last we have found the exact reference where Weinland names the Pope (sort of)….also we have an earlier date than July to hold him to (mid-June which, I note, is not “Pentecost” which is celebrated June 8th by CoG-PKG). Looks like Whale called him on the forty-five to ninety days thing. I am surprised that the Whale interview was posted because McConnell was way more softball than Whale. But I guess Weinland realizes McConnell gave him just enough rope to metaphorically hang himself, and that is why it wasn’t posted.

Whale also makes the point that Weinland will be the only one who will hear the first trumpet next Thursday. And isn’t China and Russia supposed to be coming together now? That was the impression I had from last week’s sermon, here Weinland says China will rise after “Europe does what it’s gonna do”. He still holds to the three – six months after the first trumpet. Weinland does say he will make it very clear that he was a false prophet “and I will never preach again”. Also that he will talk to anybody who wants to talk, “maybe somebody can learn from something like that, if that were to happen”. Slippery as ever.

The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that Weinland was pleading with his own membership, with regards to the SDAs/Ellen White thing; I think maybe (if he really isn’t as insane as he seems to be) he realizes he’s being put to the fire by those of us ex-members on the Internet who have been down the false prophecy road before, and he wants to make sure he keeps members in, as Armstrong did, in 1975. Even after he’s declared a false prophet.

Also notice around the 17-minute mark when Whale mentions that Weinland could be the “anti-christ”….I have seen it floated around that apparently some CoG groups have brought up the theory, but organizationally, they stray away from it, so as not to fall into the trap of giving Weinland any more “glory” than he’s already got, in their minds. Weinland does mention that it has already been suggested.

Please note that Weinland says “a lot of people get the scriptures wrong and think it’s going to be the pope, a pope or…….” then ten seconds later Weinland refers to “the catholic church and “he’s going to be in Washington DC” but Weinland still does not specifically name the Pope as being the “he” who “will be in Washington DC on the 17th”.

Weinland also mentions that “a lot of people who believe in us support us” when Whale asks “Where do you get the money to publish these books?” !!!

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Written by weinlandwatch

April 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm

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  1. Slippery as ever…it might be useful to compile a list of conditions he’s put on him being a false prophet. You, I, and everyone else who regularly reads this knows Ronny will likely attempt to wriggle out of it. I have to confess that this is rather selfish because my best friend and roommate is currently entrapped in Ronny’s mind control. I would like to think that “mid June” would be the time of awakening for “Bob” but i can only hope.

    Concerned

    April 12, 2008 at 4:08 pm

  2. With respect to Russia and China getting together, IIRC RW said that it would be a year & a month & a day after some other event.

    Don’t plan on listening to it again to point it out exactly, maybe someone else who hasn’t yet listened to the interview could take note of the time into the interview this came up and leave a comment.

    Ekimks

    April 12, 2008 at 4:33 pm

  3. Not sure either why he posted this interview. Ron sounded like a babbling child on the McConnell show… one that was caught lying and was trying to cover it up. Whale was very direct here and the only thing Ron did was give many of the same pat answers that he’s been giving all along….

    I also liked when he stated that the people who have “supported” the book are “becoming part of the church of god.”……. It seems like all one needs to be “part” of the church of god is some cash.

    Also… what about the “nobody has the power to kill me.” comment?

    I wish I had more time to find out if Ron has any sort of psychological problems in his past. It would be very interesting to know if he’s ever been evaluated or has been urged to be. I am starting to believe that’s just a maniac.

    jimmy

    April 12, 2008 at 6:29 pm

  4. in the interview he says that something will happen on the 17th. but during his last sermon he said that he doesnt have the foggiest idea of whats going to happen on that day. he needs to make this very clear and stop changing it around every time.

    mike

    April 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm

  5. If he does that though then he will quite clearly be caught out as a false prophet.

    weinlandwatch

    April 12, 2008 at 9:00 pm

  6. I just want to put this out there…I listened to the interview a few times and when whales asks, “Will the first trumpet sound on the 17th and will SOMETHING happen on that day”, RW always answered, “YES, THATS WHEN IT BEGINS”… In the past sermon RW clearly states that, and i quote, “NOT on the first day (17th) or the 2nd or 3rd on one week or 2 weeks, BUT within 45 to 90 days, the effects of the 1st trumpet will be felt. (1/3 the USA and 10s of thousands dead mostly birds and animals) THEN the 2nd trumpet( nukes in port cities) will go off…. I am not an RW fan, but I just want you all to know that he has NOT 100% locked himself into SOMETHING NEWS WORTHY on the ACTUAL DAY of April 17th…listen to the interview again…Thanks for posting WW.

    Steve

    April 12, 2008 at 10:15 pm

  7. I have a sister in this cult. She is financing Weinland. I hope she can see thru what he is doing. He is defnitely a false prophet, like Armstrong was a false Apostle

    David

    April 12, 2008 at 11:06 pm

  8. “” I am not an RW fan, but I just want you all to know that he has NOT 100% locked himself into SOMETHING NEWS WORTHY on the ACTUAL DAY of April 17th””

    i think you should listen to the interview again.

    13:15 April 17 will see something in news, more than “a minor irritation”

    mike

    April 19, 2008 at 8:41 pm

  9. That sounds as though he HAS locked himself into something newsworthy on the 17th April.

    weinlandwatch

    April 19, 2008 at 8:46 pm


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