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“J” Comes Through Again

If you visit Shadows of WCG you will see a new countdown clock called, appropriately enough “What Time is it in Jerusalem?” The data is taken from the World Clock site here.

Naturally, we mocking critical demons have been left hanging by Ron&Co: Will we be crispy critters after sunset tonight (already happened)? What about “down under” where the International Date Line has already been crossed? Anyone feeling crispy yet? Or will our two witnesses delay their visit to the Wailing Wall by “six to twelve months” instead? Stay tuned to find out! And if you don’t hear from me after tomorrow—bring marshmallows!!


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April 16, 2008 at 5:27 pm

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  1. Hi, I have been in close contact with a member of cog-pkg for the past several months. She claims to have led RW to believe him and his wife are the two end time witnesses. She also claims he wiil go after her if he proved to be a false prophet. I suppose that means because he will blame her for misleading him. She has been a member of wcg since a teenager and has been a member of cog-pkg since it began. She has food and medicines stocked up for the tribulation. She believes she has an important part to play in the end time. She has made threats that she has asked God to punish me and my family as prophets have the power to call down Gods wrath. I don’t believe her but she is a scary person. I never know what she may do. It sounds to me like she is calling herself a prophet.
    What do you think?


    April 16, 2008 at 5:43 pm

  2. Sounds like she may be a few cards short of a full deck herself. Have you tried to get her psychiatric help?

    For what it’s worth, Weinland only really started playing up the Witness thing in 2005, I really don’t think your friend had anything to do with Weinland believing he and the missus are the two witnesses from Revelation.

    If you believe your friend is in danger of hurting herself or others, please contact your local authorities immediately. There isn’t much other advice I can give you.


    April 16, 2008 at 6:22 pm

  3. Hi’
    Yes I have tried to get her to go in for help but she refuses. And she does know RW personally.Remember she was there from the beginning.
    Anyway she has cut off all contact which is fine with me. Just hope she doesn’t have any surprises in store.
    Thanks for your input


    April 16, 2008 at 7:55 pm

  4. Best of luck. I will keep your friend in my thoughts. Again, if you think there’s any chance she could harm herself or others, please, please, call your local authorities.


    April 16, 2008 at 7:58 pm

  5. Since RW has made large sums of money off this farce, has anyone considered a class action against him for fraud? It would help some of his followers recover lost wages, prep expenses, others who suffered anyway, shape or form via his fraudulent claims as prophet and THE wittness.


    April 16, 2008 at 10:34 pm

  6. I answered this same question (from a different commenter) on a different post. Unfortunately, to bring Weinland and his church to task for taking the money of gullible people, would require that the legal system ignore the people’s right to religious freedom. Like it or not, regardless of the fact that Weinland’s church follows Lifton’s thought-reform criteria pretty much to the letter, the legal system has no recourse where people have chosen (in the justice system’s eyes) to give their money to a religious organization they have been swindled by.

    The same thing was true of the Worldwide Church of God which, for all its protestantism and rejection of Armstrongism and its ways, has never, in any way, shape, or form, offered financial restitution to those who unduly suffered as a result of the 20% tithes, the extra 10% tithe every third year of seven, the offerings on each of the seven annual sabbaths, and the “special offerings” taken up “just because”.


    April 16, 2008 at 10:43 pm

  7. Then what about a class action for all those outside his church who heard his interviews and spent a lot to prepare? I know one who quit their job, moved and invested in a longterm shelter in the hills. Not everyone joined, but some believed him enough to make serious life changes based on his statements of prophet and wittness of GOD. This guy needs a serious reckoning.


    April 17, 2008 at 1:09 am

  8. I vaguely recall an ABC news show about Robert Tilton, who suffered legal consequences because he didn’t pray over the letters as he had promised.


    April 17, 2008 at 3:30 am

  9. !6.23 GMT Still Waiting! dum de dum de dum de dum (checking watch)dum de dum.


    April 17, 2008 at 3:24 pm

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