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Weinland Watch

Look Ma! It’s Those Aliens Out Here!

Just caught this, courtesy of Don’t Drink the Flavor-Aid with regards to yesterday’s sermon:

“He [Weinland] made much of the Vatican astronomer Jose Funes who stated in an interview that belief in aliens is not incompatible with Catholicism as evidence that the pope is being influenced.”

(The above audio clip is approximately five minutes in length and may take a few seconds to load. Has to be heard in its entirety. Armageddon will be just like Independence Day? Ooooo-KAY then…..)

All of this BEM speculation is based on a Newsweek blog article based on a quote Funes gave to an internal RCC publication. Apparently Funes was repeating similar sentiments that had already been expressed in 2005.

Update: A source informs me that this extraterrestrial speculation actually goes quite a bit further back than 2005: As per this 1940 RCC tract, paragraphs 572 – 574, the idea was actually first aired in Roman Catholic Church circles in 1940. So much for it being “a sign of the end times” Weinland. (My source tells me: “The book is volume 2 of Radio Replies by Fathers Leslie Rumble and Charles Carty.  It has the imprimatur of Archbishop John Gregory Murray. Paragraphs 572 through 574 are pretty much in line with the statements of the Vatican astronomer.)

That just speaks for itself, doesn’t it? Of course, let’s let Weinland defend himself on the matter:

37:25 – 37:40 RW April 12 Sermon “God’s Love is Coming”: “And the one he’s [Satan] going to start influencing in a very powerful way. Starting on April the 17th when the Pope is in Washington DC because that’s when it begins. And that’s when he begins to be influenced highly.”

BZZZZZZZT! We’re sorry, you have once again scored a 0 out of 0 on the Prophecy and Witnessing Scale. Please enter another prophecy with a later date and try again. (Please note that prophecy in hindsight is automatically disqualified from the P&WS.)

Read the rest of Mike’s sermon summary here. As per “The Return of “w”, Weinland apparently is now saying the earthquakes in China and Burma are proof of the first trumpet. Contrast this with:

The first four trumpet blasts will announce four powerfully destructive events that will bring about the total collapse of the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia,New Zealand, and some countries of Western Europe. The direct effect of all four events is first and foremost upon the United States.” [pp. 116, 2008: God’s Final Witness]

“This first powerful event of the Seventh Seal will result in wide-spread destruction over the United States and beyond her border into Canada. The destruction in Canada will be less, but she will experience repercussions from what will happen in the U.S.; because she is a neighbor, as well as a prophetic brother.” [pp. 117 – 118, 2008: God’s Final Witness]

Shadows of WCG has a more in-depth assessment of the quakes and their aftershocks. Also see here.


Written by weinlandwatch

May 18, 2008 at 3:42 pm

Posted in Weinland

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  1. According to Ron, destruction would fall on the U.S., not the Asian countries. If anyone is familiar with British-Israelism, one of the core components of it is that God is not working with the non-Israelite nations before the millenium. All the punishment and wrath of God (or at least a good majority of it) is geared towards the U.S. and Britain, so that they may be SPANKED because they don’t keep the Sabbath.
    On a side note, if you are in RW’s cult, you need to ask Ron is he goes out to eat on the Sabbath, because that is commerce and is breaking the sabbath. (I bet he doesn’t even know that it is a requirement according to the Old Testament.)

    When you build your religion-business on disproven extra-biblical theories, you get the likes of Ron Weinland. He obviously has to reinterpret his own words because he is so desperate to find anything going on in the world to support what he wrote in his books. Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, you can’t put it back easily and all you end up with is the mess that he is creating in the lives of the people who believe him.

    WCG Emeritus

    May 18, 2008 at 4:57 pm

  2. I believe Weinland mentioned in one of the earliest sermons we started monitoring, that members would be sharing a meal in the hotel restaurant after the baptisms.

    Of course, the fact that the CoGs today argue over whether or not it’s right to eat out on the sabbath, is just as mind-blowing to me as the arguments over the timing of Passover is. We never had any arguments or disagreements of that nature, back in the day.

    As far as eating out on Saturdays, we either went to the restaurant after sunset, or we sat in the restaurant watching the clock until we could eat. The fact that the wait-staff had to work to serve us wasn’t even a blip on the WCG radar. They were “worldly” after all, so it was expected “they” would break the sanctity of the sabbath.

    Urp. Pardon me I just threw up in my mouth a little.


    May 18, 2008 at 5:04 pm

  3. Any chance you can put up an “If by Pentecost” countdown timer so that everyone can know how long RW has until he *promised* he would stop preaching in aaaall those interviews he had? If he doesn’t stop by the end of the countdown, then we can add liar to his name along with false prophet. Oh, I guess “insane” (his words) would also be in order.

    WCG Emeritus

    May 18, 2008 at 7:08 pm

  4. June 8 is Penetecost (according to RW’s website). That’s just 16 days from now.
    “If by Pentecost it is not abundantly clear…I, WILL, STOP, PREACHING.” [emphasis his]
    Of course he *says* he will stop preaching by Pentecost. And, the end of July he will declare himself a “false prophet”.


    May 22, 2008 at 10:33 pm

  5. It appears to be over!!!!

    It looks like they pulled the plug on Weinland’s site!!!

    Any way to confirm this?

    Rick Hart

    May 23, 2008 at 1:26 am

  6. I just ran a check. The Google Adwords are still serving up links to the-end, and all the false prophet’s sites are working. Too bad 😦

    I doubt that he’ll stop preaching on Pentecost.

    Mike (EkimKS)

    May 23, 2008 at 1:45 am

  7. No Weinland will definitely not stop preaching on Pentecost; he has already retracted that promise, and according to the return of “w”, China and Myanmar are being taken as proof of the first trumpet. In the meantime, no 1/3 of all plant life and grass in the US has been destroyed, no deaths of tens of thousands of humans or animals in the US has happened —- but Weinland is still stringing the tithe-slaves along. This, even after the world was not “shocked and in horror on the day the seventh seal will open” (March the 18th). 😦


    May 23, 2008 at 11:23 am

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